Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

His patron numbers seem to be dropping now in the middle of the month as well as the end of the month. Are people getting wise to him quicker as the decline gathers pace?

I thought he had more or less leveled off but he’s back down to 424 and is in danger of dropping below 400 in a few days. His next Patreon benchmark is 380 and it will be embarrassing if he falls below that as well (the previous one is 540). This means 52 - 53% of his Patrons have dropped, and even more if you factor in the ones he said joined because of the “defamation”.

He can’t spin this anymore. I believe it’s split into 3 camps on him. His diehards, his detractors and an ambivalent third group who don’t care enough about him to send money and generally don’t want to hear about him.

They see this bachelor flat in Zagreb, a rented studio somewhere else and all these meaningless trips to London and realise he doesn’t need the money.

If these Patron numbers continue their downward trend, he will need that money in a bad way. Will be interesting to see how much longer Tibor lasts and if the lease is renewed on the studio next year. It would appear that he leased it with the expectation that the Patrons will rejoin after he wins the lawsuit.

And once that is lost, there’s another batch of disappointed Patrons.

All because he couldn’t say he was wrong and sorry for blowing people’s investment in him on prostitutes.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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“Return to Parliament”

He’s going to keep making these videos with grandiose titles isn’t he?

Why not “Return to Thailand”? Find out if his “date” is still single and for how long.

Stick your head inside Westminster and ask about “Lloyd Evans” and the most likely response would be if you were asking about the Gloucester rugby player.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

So…. A YTer who made a video about Jabba the Hutt and was one of the original 12 to get a letter in the mail admitted to inappropriate romantic chats with an exJW who was not his wife. Then this happened:

An atheist calls out another atheist with a Bible verse in tow and thinks it’s somewhere along the same lines as using trafficked women for a period of “3-4 years”.

He’ll never get it, folks. He doesn’t want to and is still enabled to an extent that he doesn’t need to either.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

It's very strange to send out an emotional S.O.S. to Kim

Kim wasn’t the only one she reached out to. She was making WhatsApp calls to others sounding very concerned.
But Kim knew the whole story. Her behaviour rubs me this way:
She wasn’t getting through to Lloyd. It seemed like with every new pic found, pompous email sent telling her he got off by other women showing him attention, he only became bolder. In true Lloyd fashion, he takes off to Thailand after she found out he was fucking around in Texas. Side note: Shouldn’t it have been the other way round? Shouldn’t she have taken the girls on holiday and put him on notice?
So she tries a different tack and starts feeding others damaging information about him. But I don’t think it was to necessarily damage him. It was to correct his behaviour. True, she called him and said she wanted a divorce, but that could have been a huge head fake to get him out of Thailand. As it turned out it was the only thing that got him to return.
I have no idea whether that’s still the plan but one thing is increasingly clear: She wants the grift to continue for the simple reason that she benefits from it.

She keeps showing up in subtle ways in his videos and miscellaneous rants. Lloyd intentionally used her name when he posted that last one where he said her and Tibor were almost unemployed.

What makes me sad was the turmoil that Kim and PB were going through. They didn’t arrive at this decision lightly and they got a tonne of shit for their trouble. Meanwhile his wife at very least is maintaining a business relationship with him, a huge middle finger to those who raised concerns about Patreon funds and the obvious conflict of interest he is with CSA issues.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Narcissistic husbands can ask their wives to sign blank affidavits and the wife will sign the document.

She’s beat down but is no idiot. That assumes she is a bit of a dunce to sign a blank affidavit. She could have confessed to being the Zodiac Killer by signing a blank piece of paper that she knew would have information filled out later.

The narcissist’s wife will also sign filled-out documents after hearing from her husband the flimsiest of an explanation of “why” she needs to sign the paper.

Getting closer but I just don’t buy the implication of ignorance on her part as to what Ipsilon Media is for and how much her husband is pulling in. As a mother of two small children, separated or married, you’d have to have an almost childlike innocence to not have taken a look under the hood when it’s something as important as your family’s livelihood and future.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Wives don’t always know the source of their husbands’ income nor have access to the couple’s bank records.

This one does.

Zastupnik means agent or representative. Vlasnik means owner. Clan uprave means “member of the board”. Thus:

Dijana Evans, Agent/Representative, Member of the Board.

Also:

“Ukupne prihodi” means “total revenue”. Meaning gross earnings, or before taxes and expenses.

Since “expenses” means “unnamed couple in Australia paid $15K AUD for the two members of the board to travel half way round the world”, I don’t think the good folks at Ipsilon Media are in the habit of paying much of their expenses out of what’s donated.

1.140.260.00 Croatian Kuna means $155,350 USD.

“$155,350 USD” means you’ve been duped.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

No wonder Dijana was reluctant to appear in Lloyd's videos. She probably cringed, knowing that he was taking everybody for a ride.

And yet she agreed to go on the trip, and by all accounts absolutely loved going there with the girls. Went on a whale watching tour which is her personal interest. Funny how that works. She evidently had no qualms about one couple ALONE spending $15K AUD on them. That’s not even counting the rest that was collected. $20K AUD? $25K? Who did she think was funding this? Santa?

If that had been me accepting such generosity knowing quite well I had money in the bank to cover, and to not say anything since it all got blown open, I’d feel a strong sense of moral cowardice.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

You don’t give a guy like Evans carte blanche for a family trip to Australia for “activism”. Why did he need to take the family? He didn’t think twice about leaving them shortly after Christmas for Thailand.

If anything you collect what you can and then tell him what you have money for and equally importantly what you DON’T have money for. The rest can be picked up by the TTATT guys (who were there filming and were collecting donations), Lloyd’s Patrons who were already funding his worldwide activism trips and documentaries, or Lloyd out of his own savings which were excess donations.

So a well intentioned if a bit misguided exJW couple had to go out of pocket for $15K AUD so Jabba the Hutt could order the lobster on the menu and take a trip to the Great Barrier Reef. Part of me wants to sympathise with them and another part wants to tell them what happens to fools and their money.

Now imagine the conversation to be had if that same couple, after hearing what he did in Thailand with mostly donated funds, publicly brought up the fact they felt a bit deceived by him and his claim he didn’t have enough money for the Australia trip:

You are being misled by “Kim’s lies”

You are behaving like JWs, always judging others.

You are such a puritan. Stop thinking like JWs and be a bit more understanding about people’s sexual needs and urges.

This is none of your business. My wife was the only one deceived, not you.

I didn’t pay for sex. I was dating the sex worker. Duh!

It looks like you never really left the organisation. Such a pity.

I am blocking you on social media until you apologise to me.

You are cyber-bullying me.

I am sending you a legal demand letter to pay me €8000 or you will be sued.

Since you didn’t pay me €8000 you are now a “defendant” in a Croatian criminal lawsuit that I filed.

So you made a livestream about my legal threats? Well you are misinformed and I’ll see you in court. I’d recommend getting a good Croatian lawyer.

So after putting up $15K AUD, they didn’t get a “thank you”. They got a “fuck you”.

THIS IS WHY YOU DON’T GIVE STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET MONEY.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

I am reasonably informed that they were out of pocket AUD $15,000.00

I’m almost afraid to ask as I think I know what the answer may be. Was this money funnelled directly to Lloyd? Not asking for a name, but was this all gathered by one person who then paid Lloyd? Or were his tickets bought directly out of this slush fund as well as other amenities and the remainder just donated to him directly? How exactly was this distributed if you know and don’t mind sharing?

Have to hand it to him, he out-WTed the Watchtower with his donation schemes.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Was Lloyd banned from this "9 long years" thread?

Lloyd was/is banned from this site, JWN. His posts are still up but his account is locked. He can’t post anymore.

But what I think is wrong is standing by and watching Kim on the end of a tirade of abuse from exjws for stating the truth. Anyone & everyone should condemn that, no matter what your opinion of Lloyd is.

That’s really what the livestream was all about. It was a huge bat signal for everyone to dump on Kim which he fully expected would then happen. What he didn’t expect was for several prominent friends & allies of his to actually put on their thinking cap once the shock wore off. Some took a week or more, others took a month or so to fully understand what they were being sold.

He, his wife and kids all had their fares paid (and I've no doubt accomodations) which is a hellova lot of money.

I’ll look for it if you are interested, but someone who met him at the Aussie event called him out on xJW Reddit for seeming to want all the attention and enjoying the fruits of the generosity of others. It went about as well as you could imagine. Vintage Lloyd. First he hissed at him that he was posting from the comfort of his anonymity. The guy then claps back at him and says “I was the guy with the beard who stood next to you whilst you were speaking with Javier Ortiz”. Lloyd then changes tack and goes after him as “the creepy bearded stalker” as if he never looked in a mirror.

I don’t claim to know much about the Aussie event and I’m sure there are many who know more. What I did hear was some chatter from Aus/NZ exJWs who were under the impression that Lloyd and his family were in need and it would be best if they could chip in to help with what was a truly altruistic venture. They were shocked at what they witnessed.

A family of four get flown from Croatia to Australia and it’s for Lloyd to interview people? I think this is why the revelation that he was regularly seeing prostitutes for several years stung so much for many. He brought his family up front and centre and made a huge display out of it, but in reality they were enabling another asshole of a husband who was putting on a show and in true WT style was collecting on both ends. Did the Patreon funds stop while he was in Australia? He got paid twice over!